I’m sorry…

…but Trey just no longer does it for me. Like…not at all…

Nothing too surprising there if you’re a fan of Live Music Blog. We’re over him, so to speak. We’re no longer automatically gung-ho on his side projects, even if there’s an orchestral version of “Divided Sky” to break up on the alternative-pop-rock monotony of the other tunes…

I thoroughly enjoyed SuperDee’s review of his Bar 17 release because she lays it all out there. “I love this man, but our musical tastes are no longer aligned.” Well said. My response would have been something like, “uhm…this album blows…”

DOES TREY STILL DO IT FOR YOU? Why? Is the answer something other than “because he used to…?” I want to hear it.

  • Jordan

    SHUT THE FUK UP ALREADY
    I GUESS YOU MISSED THE LAST 3 SHOWS
    TREY DOESNT CARE IF YOU DONT LIKE HIM
    GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC PUTZ

  • Jordan

    SHUT THE FUK UP ALREADY
    I GUESS YOU MISSED THE LAST 3 SHOWS
    TREY DOESNT CARE IF YOU DONT LIKE HIM
    GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC PUTZ

  • http://www.livemusicblog.com Justin Ward

    Jordan: thank you for the kind words. Feel free to never stop by the site again. Thank you, drive through…

  • http://www.livemusicblog.com Justin Ward

    Jordan: thank you for the kind words. Feel free to never stop by the site again. Thank you, drive through…

  • hanny

    I’m glad to see that this opinion of Trey’s current work is starting to take hold among these blogs and such. To put it simply, that album he just released was dreadful. Although “Shine” wasn’t any prize, it’s starting to look better compared to this slop. I don’t know how much more musically and lyrically shallow an album can get.

    I was hoping that Trey would utilize the studio to mask his declining guitar skills (it’s time everyone stops denying this; I don’t know if its because of drugs, age, or if he just doesn’t care anymore), but unfortunately he has decided otherwise. People say that as an artist, he can do what he wants, and that’s perfectly fine. But I think the infamous “urinating in the ears of listeners” phrase is finally coming full circle.

    I’ll never let what he’s doing now detract from what he gave in the past, but there’s just too much other great music being played right now to waste time on this. It’s just bad music.

  • hanny

    I’m glad to see that this opinion of Trey’s current work is starting to take hold among these blogs and such. To put it simply, that album he just released was dreadful. Although “Shine” wasn’t any prize, it’s starting to look better compared to this slop. I don’t know how much more musically and lyrically shallow an album can get.

    I was hoping that Trey would utilize the studio to mask his declining guitar skills (it’s time everyone stops denying this; I don’t know if its because of drugs, age, or if he just doesn’t care anymore), but unfortunately he has decided otherwise. People say that as an artist, he can do what he wants, and that’s perfectly fine. But I think the infamous “urinating in the ears of listeners” phrase is finally coming full circle.

    I’ll never let what he’s doing now detract from what he gave in the past, but there’s just too much other great music being played right now to waste time on this. It’s just bad music.

  • http://newbob.blogspot.com Andrew

    Justin, sorry to hear the new Trey is disappointing… can’t say I’m all that surprised. I think I made it once through Shine (and skipped through most songs at about the first chorus at that…), though I was hoping Bar would be a little less poppy and more rock (Mud City was a moment of hope on the GRAB tour)…

    I think what we’re seeing is a man that’s always needed a secondary force to help him reign in his creativity and help him refine and — probably most importantly — dismiss his ideas. Look at the man’s history and his best stuff was (generally) written with Tom Marshall (could Tom, PLEAAASE, help with the lyrics in the future?!)

    I’ve always argued that Phish doesn’t become a phenomenon without Mike. He was the anchor of that unit… and the couterbalance to Trey’s desire to make every show a wank fest… see the gun store scene in Bittersweet Motel for exhibit A…

    That said, Trey’s first solo album has actually aged really well. I listen to that more now than when it first came out…

  • http://newbob.blogspot.com Andrew

    Justin, sorry to hear the new Trey is disappointing… can’t say I’m all that surprised. I think I made it once through Shine (and skipped through most songs at about the first chorus at that…), though I was hoping Bar would be a little less poppy and more rock (Mud City was a moment of hope on the GRAB tour)…

    I think what we’re seeing is a man that’s always needed a secondary force to help him reign in his creativity and help him refine and — probably most importantly — dismiss his ideas. Look at the man’s history and his best stuff was (generally) written with Tom Marshall (could Tom, PLEAAASE, help with the lyrics in the future?!)

    I’ve always argued that Phish doesn’t become a phenomenon without Mike. He was the anchor of that unit… and the couterbalance to Trey’s desire to make every show a wank fest… see the gun store scene in Bittersweet Motel for exhibit A…

    That said, Trey’s first solo album has actually aged really well. I listen to that more now than when it first came out…

  • hanny

    I agree Andrew…”Trey Anastasio” was a fantastic album.

  • hanny

    I agree Andrew…”Trey Anastasio” was a fantastic album.

  • http://www.whosdrivingthebus.blogspot.com/ dafun

    i still love Trey I spent way too much time and money to give up on him now. But with that said I did skip the 2 webster Hall shows and the vneue is less than 2 blocks from my apartment. The shows were just too expensive for me right now and I really didn’t feel the need to spend 100 dollars for 2 shows. I guess what I am trying to say is that I will continue to support him but I will not go see him every time he is on tour.

  • http://www.whosdrivingthebus.blogspot.com/ dafun

    i still love Trey I spent way too much time and money to give up on him now. But with that said I did skip the 2 webster Hall shows and the vneue is less than 2 blocks from my apartment. The shows were just too expensive for me right now and I really didn’t feel the need to spend 100 dollars for 2 shows. I guess what I am trying to say is that I will continue to support him but I will not go see him every time he is on tour.

  • http://muzzleofbees.wordpress.com/ uwmryan

    The only reason any of us liked Trey to begin with was because of Phish. People said it forever that Phish was “Trey’s Band,” but, I think we’re beginning to see that his talents both recorded and in a live setting are not strong enough to stand on their own.

    Talent-wise I think he has all the talent in the world, but his music is so uninteresting and repetitive. I’ve never been struck by anything that he’s done which was partly which made me lose interest in Phish too at the end. You can only do the same thing for so long before people start (as we are) calling you out for trying to sell us the same live show and same album.

  • http://muzzleofbees.wordpress.com/ uwmryan

    The only reason any of us liked Trey to begin with was because of Phish. People said it forever that Phish was “Trey’s Band,” but, I think we’re beginning to see that his talents both recorded and in a live setting are not strong enough to stand on their own.

    Talent-wise I think he has all the talent in the world, but his music is so uninteresting and repetitive. I’ve never been struck by anything that he’s done which was partly which made me lose interest in Phish too at the end. You can only do the same thing for so long before people start (as we are) calling you out for trying to sell us the same live show and same album.

  • shawnm

    Caught Trey on letterman the other night and was relly let down. Thought his guitar playing was OK but the band was flat and the song… blech.

    I’ve seen some mighty fine Trey shows, but lets just say I’m looking forward to seeing the Herbalizer tomorrow.

    I’ve seen 90 phish shows. Huge part of my life. But even a reuinion isn’t exciting to me right now.

    I have a feeling Trey broke up Phish because he knew he was losing his muse and didn’t want to ruin a good thing. If and when he gets it back he’ll either start pulling off good solo work or (my preference) go back to Phish with more perspective and less, um, cocaine.

    Now for the fantasy scenario… I’ve always wished the rest of phish would hook up with David Byrne and tour doing Talkin Heads songs. Those guys have the chops (Remain in Light being all the proof you need) and they are used to working with an ego-heavy front man.

    That would be the shit.

  • shawnm

    Caught Trey on letterman the other night and was relly let down. Thought his guitar playing was OK but the band was flat and the song… blech.

    I’ve seen some mighty fine Trey shows, but lets just say I’m looking forward to seeing the Herbalizer tomorrow.

    I’ve seen 90 phish shows. Huge part of my life. But even a reuinion isn’t exciting to me right now.

    I have a feeling Trey broke up Phish because he knew he was losing his muse and didn’t want to ruin a good thing. If and when he gets it back he’ll either start pulling off good solo work or (my preference) go back to Phish with more perspective and less, um, cocaine.

    Now for the fantasy scenario… I’ve always wished the rest of phish would hook up with David Byrne and tour doing Talkin Heads songs. Those guys have the chops (Remain in Light being all the proof you need) and they are used to working with an ego-heavy front man.

    That would be the shit.

  • http://slacklalane.blogspot.com Ace Cowboy

    I finally understand what the PT acronym “MRFMTD” really means…I’m loving that people are hopping off the Treywagon. I went into the Sunday/Monday shows with little expectation of greatness, and I walked out totally floored. They were easily the best two shows I’ve seen him play with any non-Phish entity since the popular rock band broke up. No exaggeration whatsoever.

    Then I realized a few major reasons why: Webster Hall is a club, an intimate venue that holds maybe 1,200-1,400. The sound inside was incredible and contained. Kuroda’s rigs were lighting up the whole place, the unsung hero of the homestand. The crowd was friendly and appreciative, small-town mentality in a big city.

    I guess what I’m saying is, Trey’s band and crew right now are PERFECT for the venue sizes on this tour. And when Phish eventually gets back together — and they will, even if it’s not permanent — we’re going to really miss hearing Trey f*cking RIP a Mr. Completely or a Push On or a Plasma, or play with a string quintet! Trust me, that was not just a gimmick, that was great music. THAT was a sight to behold.

    Plus, Jeff Sipe is saving this band…his drumming style changes the entire complexion of the band, and he’s making Tony Hall look that much better than previous tours. I desperately hope Trey asks him to stay on as a full member of this band and that Sipe has the generosity of spirit and musicianship to accept. He’s pushing Trey, which hasn’t happened in a long time.

    I couldn’t care less about the new album…in fact, I agree that it doesn’t suit my tastes (and SuperDee said it well). I’m not the biggest fan of Trey’s singing, or his song-writing anymore. But GoodGodMan, who the hell shreds like him out there? When he’s on, he’s still ON. He’s still the undisputed heavyweight champ in my eyes, and he’ll be there ’til he proves otherwise. He almost did, but he’s back, baby. He’s really back.

    More Room For Me To Dance, Braaaahhhhhs.

  • http://slacklalane.blogspot.com Ace Cowboy

    I finally understand what the PT acronym “MRFMTD” really means…I’m loving that people are hopping off the Treywagon. I went into the Sunday/Monday shows with little expectation of greatness, and I walked out totally floored. They were easily the best two shows I’ve seen him play with any non-Phish entity since the popular rock band broke up. No exaggeration whatsoever.

    Then I realized a few major reasons why: Webster Hall is a club, an intimate venue that holds maybe 1,200-1,400. The sound inside was incredible and contained. Kuroda’s rigs were lighting up the whole place, the unsung hero of the homestand. The crowd was friendly and appreciative, small-town mentality in a big city.

    I guess what I’m saying is, Trey’s band and crew right now are PERFECT for the venue sizes on this tour. And when Phish eventually gets back together — and they will, even if it’s not permanent — we’re going to really miss hearing Trey f*cking RIP a Mr. Completely or a Push On or a Plasma, or play with a string quintet! Trust me, that was not just a gimmick, that was great music. THAT was a sight to behold.

    Plus, Jeff Sipe is saving this band…his drumming style changes the entire complexion of the band, and he’s making Tony Hall look that much better than previous tours. I desperately hope Trey asks him to stay on as a full member of this band and that Sipe has the generosity of spirit and musicianship to accept. He’s pushing Trey, which hasn’t happened in a long time.

    I couldn’t care less about the new album…in fact, I agree that it doesn’t suit my tastes (and SuperDee said it well). I’m not the biggest fan of Trey’s singing, or his song-writing anymore. But GoodGodMan, who the hell shreds like him out there? When he’s on, he’s still ON. He’s still the undisputed heavyweight champ in my eyes, and he’ll be there ’til he proves otherwise. He almost did, but he’s back, baby. He’s really back.

    More Room For Me To Dance, Braaaahhhhhs.

  • http://slacklalane.blogspot.com Ace Cowboy

    The third graf above should read:

    I guess what I’m saying is, Trey’s band and crew right now are PERFECT for the venue sizes on this tour. And when Phish eventually gets back together — and they will, even if it’s not permanent — we’re going to really miss hearing Trey f*cking RIP a Mr. Completely or a Push On or a Plasma, or play with a string quintet in venues that small and intimate!

  • http://slacklalane.blogspot.com Ace Cowboy

    The third graf above should read:

    I guess what I’m saying is, Trey’s band and crew right now are PERFECT for the venue sizes on this tour. And when Phish eventually gets back together — and they will, even if it’s not permanent — we’re going to really miss hearing Trey f*cking RIP a Mr. Completely or a Push On or a Plasma, or play with a string quintet in venues that small and intimate!